[jjgold]

AMERICAN LEAGUE
	May 24	959	DET TIGERS	VERLANDER -R	-155
	12:05 PM	960	CLE INDIANS	J MASTERSN -R	+145

[ProfaneReality]

I would advise against it. Indians have always hit Verlander pretty well... he has an era of 5 against them over 170 innings

Masterson has been hot garbage for the most part this year, but is sporting a home ERA of 2.62

Not to mention, these teams are trending in opposite directions. Wouldn't lay -150 on Detroit vs anyone right now.

[jjgold]

Reality good advice man

I swear you make good points but I am a fukkin sucker and hitting Verlander here

[thirtytwo]

wouldnt touch those underachieving fukks at this price

[taxe91]

I would advise against it. Indians have always hit Verlander pretty well... he has an era of 5 against them over 170 innings

Masterson has been hot garbage for the most part this year, but is sporting a home ERA of 2.62

Not to mention, these teams are trending in opposite directions. Wouldn't lay -150 on Detroit vs anyone right now.

CLEVELAND INDIANS CAREER STATISTICS VS. JUSTIN VERLANDER
BATTER	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
Michael Brantley	16	7	0	1	0	4	3	3	.438	.526	.563	1.089
Asdrubal Cabrera	36	6	1	0	0	4	4	15	.167	.250	.194	.444
Ezequiel Carrera	6	0	0	0	0	0	0	3	.000	.000	.000	.000
Lonnie Chisenhall	5	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	.200	.200	.200	.400
Shin-Soo Choo	39	8	0	0	1	3	5	16	.205	.295	.282	.578
Johnny Damon	22	7	3	0	1	1	1	3	.318	.348	.591	.939
Jason Donald	8	3	1	0	0	1	0	3	.375	.375	.500	.875
Shelley Duncan	13	4	1	0	2	4	1	4	.308	.357	.846	1.203
Travis Hafner	44	12	0	0	2	10	9	13	.273	.389	.409	.798
Jack Hannahan	7	0	0	0	0	0	2	5	.000	.222	.000	.222
Jason Kipnis	2	0	0	0	0	0	1	1	.000	.333	.000	.333
Casey Kotchman	23	6	2	0	1	3	0	3	.261	.250	.478	.728
Matt LaPorta	12	0	0	0	0	0	1	3	.000	.077	.000	.077
Jose Lopez	38	11	2	0	0	3	0	1	.289	.289	.342	.632
Lou Marson	11	2	1	0	0	0	2	4	.182	.308	.273	.580
Carlos Santana	9	2	0	0	1	1	3	3	.222	.462	.556	1.017
Grady Sizemore	55	12	4	0	2	7	9	16	.218	.348	.400	.748
Totals	346	81	15	1	10	41	41	96	.234	.319	.370	.689

pretty average numbers.

detroit trying to avoid the sweep with their 'stopper' on the mound, i like them but not at this price

[BIGDAY]

I'm with ya coach!!!! Let's The fukkker up pal!!!

[EC4THREE10]

Detroit wins dont be scared to win

[leeloo]

Yes we are.

[jjgold]

Anyone getting greedy and playing them on the rl?

[JJJ]

I would only bet 1st 5 innings Detroits bullpen is horrible

[Smogs]

Gotta leave it alone i feel

[LoneStar]

Anyone getting greedy and playing them on the rl?

Greed....it reality! How bout Det -3. Inside source says its gonna get ugly

[milwaukee mike]

i'm on detroit -1.5

[a4u2fear]

Opposite of Detroit

[MikeZaW]

I'd normally play against in this spot but I think Verlander goes atleast 8 innings today and wins it.

[vaas187]

took detroit and the under

[DudleyDawson]

i'm on detroit -1.5

[]

RL's are for suckers. If you like the team lay the chalk...juice doesn't matter as long as you win.

[Deuce]

Tigers are shit. He could go 7 and the bullpen is basically gasoline on a fire.

[Deuce]

[]

RL's are for suckers. If you like the team lay the chalk...juice doesn't matter as long as you win.

Pavyracer????

[DudleyDawson]

Tigers have owned Masterson.

[DudleyDawson]

Pavyracer????

Shouldn't you be in a chat room somewhere, chatting with other guys about shoes?

[brettels]

I don't know shiz about MLB, but i do know that Detroit SUCK, they won for me when i random bet last year, this year they eat poo.

[milwaukee mike]

[]

RL's are for suckers. If you like the team lay the chalk...juice doesn't matter as long as you win.

the juice matters if you win or lose because i can bet a larger amount/win a larger amount. i think there is a very small chance detroit will only win by a run, and i am fading that outcome by taking the run line at +100 instead of the money line at -165

so betting 165 to win 165 (or 1650 to win 1650, or whatever amount) instead of 165 to win 100 makes sense to me.
for the run line to be worse than the money line, it would have to land on detroit winning by 1 run about 1/4th of the time they win, which i don't see with this pitching matchup

[MikeZaW]

Took the det. RL

[Blissit02]

got my bankroll on Detriot....443 dollars....havent won in weeks, bankroll was around 5600 in Jan

[pattymayo]

the juice matters if you win or lose because i can bet a larger amount/win a larger amount. i think there is a very small chance detroit will only win by a run, and i am fading that outcome by taking the run line at +100 instead of the money line at -165

so betting 165 to win 165 (or 1650 to win 1650, or whatever amount) instead of 165 to win 100 makes sense to me.
for the run line to be worse than the money line, it would have to land on detroit winning by 1 run about 1/4th of the time they win, which i don't see with this pitching matchup

Tigers are 6-3 this year when Verlander starts, and 3 of those wins were by 1 run. Just saying

[GunShard]

Not so sure betting on any team on the road.

[vaas187]

LOL

[DudleyDawson]

Verlander takes a 2-0 or 3-0 lead into the 9th and gives up 1 or 2...imo.

[billysink]

Here's what I see.

Masterson is and has always been plagued by his inability to get lefthanded batters out. His three year splits and this years's as well show an OPS and a BA that are very polarized lefty righty. Leyland has 5 lefties in the lineup today. Miggy hits Masterson well. Masterson is a ground ball pitcher but he has also had command issues this year having issued 5+ walks three times already. Leyland has been preaching patience of late, we may see a few runners on base early for the Tigs.

I would have like Cleveland's chances more with their patent all lefty lineup but an injury to Hafner in last nights game, the continued unavailability of Jack Hanrahan and the day game forcing Marson instead of Santana (who will DH); leave 3 righties in the lineup. Several Indians batters, Damon, Brantley, Lopez, Kotchman have extemely low strikeout rates against Verlander. We may see a bit more contact than usual in this one off Verlander. I am not seeing one of those 14 K games from him. We might see a few innings from the shit Tiger bully here as Leyland is trying not to go crazy this year. Verlander off two low pitch count games may fool me on this though. If the Indians can make him grind a bit and I think they may, the bullpen is shit against lefties.

Wind blowing straight out to left today and forecast to do so full game. 7 is the number and I think we may see a few runs here.

I am gonna have a go at Detroit -.5 first five -114 and the game total over 7 +104.

Probably too much info for this thread but what the fuk.

Good luck gents.

[Linngari]

Over 7 is the play here IMO

[Roxxyfish]

Anyone getting greedy and playing them on the rl?

me

[vaas187]

very good insight.

[acl123]

All in..

[Ghenghis Kahn]

for some reason i like the over on this game. cleveland can hit on verlander and i think masterson will give up at least 4 runs today.